Bridging Science and Soul Bridging Science and Soul

Episode 3: The Myth of Knowing

November 11, 2025

🎙️ Bridging Science & Soul – Exploring Curiosity and Certainty with Dr. Stephen Brewer, MD. & Dr. Elizabeth Brewer, Psy.D., hosted by Zale Young. In this episode of Bridging Science & Soul, we explore the delicate rhythm between knowing and not knowing, what happens to curiosity when we become certain, and why both are essential for balance, healing, and growth. Stephen reflects on how certainty shows up in medicine, where quick decisions can save lives but humility keeps the heart of healing alive. Elizabeth brings in the psychology and neuroscience of curiosity, sharing how this state literally opens the nervous system, increases dopamine and learning, and signals safety in the body. Together, they explore curiosity as a biological intelligence, a sign the body feels safe enough to explore, connect, and change. They ask: when is certainty necessary, and when does it become armor? Listeners are invited to pause, breathe, and reflect: • Where do I cling to being right? • What would it feel like to replace certainty with curiosity, even briefly? • How does curiosity feel in my body, tight, open, or alive?